Comments on: How to make money from SEO without selling SEO services http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/ Are you getting the most out of your site? Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:44:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: sarahatan http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-4462 sarahatan Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:35:33 +0000 http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-4462 haha - too funny! Check this out for even more: <a href="http://www.seosoftwareportal.com/services/social-bookmarking.html" rel="nofollow">social bookmarking</a> !! haha - too funny! Check this out for even more: social bookmarking !!

]]> By: Simon Creedy http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-3912 Simon Creedy Thu, 03 Jul 2008 00:15:42 +0000 http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-3912 Very interesting. I have been experimenting with SEO on my own site. Getting opinions from "SEO experts" and trying to implement them. I have found it really hard to get the balance especially in Graphics or Web Design for keywords... too easy to overswamp and be excluded or not put enough and be missed. The location thing is a great idea though. I would be very happy to here any thoughts you might have that might make my website more visible to Search Engines/People. It is located at http://www.creedy.com.au Thanks for any advice. Kind regards Simon Very interesting.

I have been experimenting with SEO on my own site. Getting opinions from “SEO experts” and trying to implement them.

I have found it really hard to get the balance especially in Graphics or Web Design for keywords… too easy to overswamp and be excluded or not put enough and be missed.

The location thing is a great idea though.

I would be very happy to here any thoughts you might have that might make my website more visible to Search Engines/People.

It is located at http://www.creedy.com.au

Thanks for any advice.

Kind regards

Simon

]]> By: Mark http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-517 Mark Tue, 11 Dec 2007 22:10:36 +0000 http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-517 I'm not entirely sure why my search got me to this blog concerning SEO... (I went with "how to make money as a plumber") there must be a wormhole or something in google. That aside, my company does this on a large scale in the states. We've published yellow pages for years (120 to be exact), and the market is moving towards the internet. Not really because more people are finding specifically plumbers there, but moreso because people assume that customers are searching there. As with all large purchases, we actually find that most customers search in multiple locations for contractors (print, online, recomendations, etc etc..) Anyway, check out our site if you're interested... http://www.dexsearchmarketing.com/ -Mark I’m not entirely sure why my search got me to this blog concerning SEO… (I went with “how to make money as a plumber”) there must be a wormhole or something in google.

That aside, my company does this on a large scale in the states. We’ve published yellow pages for years (120 to be exact), and the market is moving towards the internet. Not really because more people are finding specifically plumbers there, but moreso because people assume that customers are searching there. As with all large purchases, we actually find that most customers search in multiple locations for contractors (print, online, recomendations, etc etc..)

Anyway, check out our site if you’re interested…

http://www.dexsearchmarketing.com/

-Mark

]]> By: dLook http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-320 dLook Mon, 05 Nov 2007 01:44:22 +0000 http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-320 I can so identify with your plumbing scenario. We run a free SEO seminar every month and we target small to medium businesses to attend. To date we have not had ONE plumber, electrician, carpenter, bricklayer etc turn up. Thinking this was strange I actually rang 100 tradesmen personally to try and get them along. In almost all cases the answer was "sorry we don't use the internet to get business". The irony is that the various trade categories are all very popular on the dLook directory averaging over 2,800 searches per day Australia wide. It seems that there is a mindset amongst a lot of Australian tradies that the "work wanted" adds or the Tradesmen" section of the local paper is the only place to solicit new business. Theo Tsiamis National Marketing Manager dLook.com.au I can so identify with your plumbing scenario.
We run a free SEO seminar every month and we target small to medium businesses to attend.
To date we have not had ONE plumber, electrician, carpenter, bricklayer etc turn up.
Thinking this was strange I actually rang 100 tradesmen personally to try and get them along. In almost all cases the answer was “sorry we don’t use the internet to get business”.
The irony is that the various trade categories are all very popular on the dLook directory averaging over 2,800 searches per day Australia wide.
It seems that there is a mindset amongst a lot of Australian tradies that the “work wanted” adds or the Tradesmen” section of the local paper is the only place to solicit new business.

Theo Tsiamis
National Marketing Manager
dLook.com.au

]]> By: David http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-266 David Fri, 19 Oct 2007 18:16:08 +0000 http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-266 I do it with auto and boat dealers - it's a bit like talking "Muppet Show" when talking SEO so I get myself ranked where they want to be and ring goes my 'phone :) I do it with auto and boat dealers - it’s a bit like talking “Muppet Show” when talking SEO so I get myself ranked where they want to be and ring goes my ‘phone :)

]]> By: Brian Shoff http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-265 Brian Shoff Fri, 19 Oct 2007 16:54:25 +0000 http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-265 I agree with Vmarketics. I have worked for a real estate lead generation .com for over 3 years and we were constantly (and probably still are) constantly struggling with clients that complain about lead quality. We even attempted to "clean" the leads and still people complain. What's worse, is you are typically charging the client with a credit card which can be refuted (aka charged back). Get too many of those... and you can't process credit cards anymore. Last, depending on the industry, you probably aren't the first person to think of lead generation. So you will have a lot of competition (at least we did for real estate leads) It's like Communism, sexy on paper, not in practice. But, you are obviously experiencing success... so maybe taking your approach is the way to go? Taking a very personalized approach to lead generation. ::shrugs:: I agree with Vmarketics.

I have worked for a real estate lead generation .com for over 3 years and we were constantly (and probably still are) constantly struggling with clients that complain about lead quality. We even attempted to “clean” the leads and still people complain.

What’s worse, is you are typically charging the client with a credit card which can be refuted (aka charged back). Get too many of those… and you can’t process credit cards anymore.

Last, depending on the industry, you probably aren’t the first person to think of lead generation. So you will have a lot of competition (at least we did for real estate leads)

It’s like Communism, sexy on paper, not in practice.

But, you are obviously experiencing success… so maybe taking your approach is the way to go? Taking a very personalized approach to lead generation.

::shrugs::

]]> By: seo staff http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-262 seo staff Fri, 19 Oct 2007 11:13:57 +0000 http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-262 this article is great pete. its telling businesses can increase their profit without hiring some service like SEO. but for it would be best it businesses will hire a SEO service coz it would be an advantage to gain more profit than the usual. this article is great pete. its telling businesses can increase their profit without hiring some service like SEO. but for it would be best it businesses will hire a SEO service coz it would be an advantage to gain more profit than the usual.

]]> By: www.vmarketics.com http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-233 www.vmarketics.com Fri, 19 Oct 2007 03:27:33 +0000 http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-233 I have seen SEO and lead generation together over the years, the problem is getting clients is tough and it requires a long term commitment from clients for a sustained model. Most of the times the clients do not appreciate the lead value (they compare with the other forms of lead generation) and so its viable only if the revenue potential is high (not certainly for plumbing businesses !) - probably real estate, software, and other type of high-potential niche b2b businesses might work out well, if you want to migrate from SEO to lead generation. my 2 cents though :-) ~BALA www.vmarketics.com I have seen SEO and lead generation together over the years, the problem is getting clients is tough and it requires a long term commitment from clients for a sustained model. Most of the times the clients do not appreciate the lead value (they compare with the other forms of lead generation) and so its viable only if the revenue potential is high (not certainly for plumbing businesses !)

- probably real estate, software, and other type of high-potential niche b2b businesses might work out well, if you want to migrate from SEO to lead generation.

my 2 cents though :-)

~BALA
http://www.vmarketics.com

]]> By: chrikima http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-217 chrikima Fri, 19 Oct 2007 01:48:32 +0000 http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-217 Not only good thinking but what is more important - good action Pete. Also good to see that you go to networking events! Keep up the good blogs and work. Chris Not only good thinking but what is more important - good action Pete. Also good to see that you go to networking events!
Keep up the good blogs and work. Chris

]]> By: Christine Parfitt http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-199 Christine Parfitt Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:21:12 +0000 http://blog.sitemost.com.au/2007/10/18/how-to-make-money-from-seo-without-selling-seo-services/#comment-199 Good post Pete - I agree there are a lot of opportunities with this. Good post Pete - I agree there are a lot of opportunities with this.

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